Will Brokerage Be Concerned If I Swap ("Churn") Between Two Positions on a Monthly Basis?

Will Brokerage Be Concerned If I Swap ("Churn") Between Two Positions on a Monthly Basis?

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AA040371 · External communityPost link
External question — Personal Finance Stack Exchange Author: AA040371 Original post: https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/161780 License: CC BY-SA 4.0 — https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ Adaptation: HTML converted to plain text; contact email addresses removed. Disregarding the "Why?" or potential brokerage/trading fees, please consider the following scenario: I have two positions, A and B. I have $100,000 in position A at the beginning of the month. I sell all of position A at end of week 1. I then use those funds to buy equivalent $ amount in position B at end of week 2. I then sell all of position B at end of week 3. I then use those funds to buy equivalent $ amount in position A at end of week 4. Rinse and repeat for following/new month, and then the next, and etc. So my question : Should I expect my brokerage to: 1) Actually notice this activity?; and 2) care at all? Nothing nefarious involved, just a "churn" scenario that I am interested in understanding.
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Bob Baerker · External communityPost link
External answer — Personal Finance Stack Exchange Author: Bob Baerker Original post: https://money.stackexchange.com/a/161783 License: CC BY-SA 4.0 — https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ Adaptation: HTML converted to plain text; contact email addresses removed. Brokers do not care how often you trade as long as you are either trading with settled cash (cash account). There is no issue with this at all in a margin account. The only thing that you have to beware of is Wash Sale violations which could possibly present you with tax issues if not properly dealt with by the end of the year.
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External answer — Personal Finance Stack Exchange Author: mhoran_psprep Original post: https://money.stackexchange.com/a/161793 License: CC BY-SA 4.0 — https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ Adaptation: HTML converted to plain text; contact email addresses removed. So my question: Should I expect my brokerage to: 1) Actually notice this activity?; and 2) care at all? Nothing nefarious involved, just a "churn" scenario that I am interested in understanding. since this is just a scenario... I have seen limitations on doing this within 401(k) accounts, they limited the number or type of transactions a person could make each month. They ran into issues as the they went from systems where all changes in the investments had to be in response to paper forms that were processed once a month, to one in which you could do everything on line. Some people were making adjustments every day. They limited the number of transactions to cut down on the administrative costs. They also used the excuse that these were supposed to be invested in the long term and should not be moved in response to short term news.
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External answer — Personal Finance Stack Exchange Author: Nosjack Original post: https://money.stackexchange.com/a/161825 License: CC BY-SA 4.0 — https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ Adaptation: HTML converted to plain text; contact email addresses removed. The brokerage won't care. This is common for tax-loss harvesting where you sell a tax lot at a loss and buy a similar enough investment that the wash sale rule isn't triggered, but it still correlates 99% with the original.
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